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08:37:57 From Eric Moses Gurevitch To Everyone:
 
Being deployed both in the everyday (laukika) and the scriptural equally, calculations are used everywhere. Mathematics is highly regarded in all the variety of arts and sciences (kalā), such as the science of erotics, in political science, in musicology, in dramaturgy, in the science of cooking, in medicine, and in disciplines such as architecture. Likewise, it is used in metrics, poetics and poetry, and disciplines such as logical reasoning and grammar.
 
laukike vaidike vāpi tathā sāmāyike ’pi yaḥ |
vyāpāras tatra sarvatra saṅkhyānām upayujyate ||
kāmatantre ’rthaśāstre ca gāndharve nāṭake ’pi vā |
sūpaśāstre tathā vaidye vāstuvidyādivastuṣu ||
chandolaṅkārakāvyeṣu tarkavyākaraṇādiṣu |
kalāguṇeṣu sarveṣu prastutaṃ gaṇitaṃ param || Mahāvīra, Ganitasārasaṅgraha, 1.9-11
08:45:55 From Tulika Singh To Everyone:
 
Looking at this list here, I wonder what is non-science in this context?
08:54:09 From Dr. Vidhya Shanker, unceded Dakota homelands To Everyone:
 
It has been said that certain things are not art, though (speaking as an art historian and fine artist)
09:02:22 From Dr. Vidhya Shanker, unceded Dakota homelands To Everyone:
 
Also: “evidence” is (mis)used in law, medicine, and social/ behavioral science, etc. but not necessarily the arts
09:08:30 From Nida Kibria To Everyone:
 
cold you please share the paper or name of the author ? @Dominik Wujastyk
09:08:31 From Nida Kibria To Everyone:
 
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09:09:22 From Lisa Allette Brooks To Everyone:
 
The paper is uploaded under the calendar entry for today.
09:09:44 From Eric Moses Gurevitch To Everyone:
 
The Greeks are certainly barbarians. This science (śāstra) is perfectly established among them. They are even praised as sages. How much more so are those Brahmins who understand fate
 
mlecchā hi yavanās teṣu samyak śāstram idaṃ sthitam |
ṛṣivat te ’pi pūjyante kiṃ punar daivavid dvijaḥ || Varāhamihira, Bṛhatsaṃhitā 2.14, translated into Arabic in al-Biruni, India, vol. 1, p. 23. (Arabic text in vol. 2, pp. 11-12.)
09:10:08 From Nida Kibria To Everyone:
 
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09:10:20 From Dagmar Wujastyk To Everyone:
 
Lorraine Daston's paper
09:13:56 From Nida Kibria To Everyone:
 
Reacted to "Daston—TheHistory..." with
09:16:04 From Dominik Wujastyk To Everyone:
 
The discussion begins with Vāmaka, king of Kāśī, framing the ques-
tion as to whether man and disease have the same source. Punarvasu
urges the sages who are present to answer the king.
 
Pārīkṣi Maudgalya first answers that man and his diseases are both
the product of self, because the self is the cause (kāraṇaṃ hi saḥ),
since he is the ultimate consumer of experience.
 
Śaralomā disagrees. The self, hating pain, would not willing inflict
painful diseases upon himself. Rather, for Śaralomā, man’s body and
its diseases originate in the mind (manas), subject as it is to agitation
and dullness (rajas and tamas).
09:29:16 From Dr. Vidhya Shanker, unceded Dakota homelands To Everyone:
 
Unfortunately, I have to leave early. Thanks, everyone—I hope to join again.
09:35:17 From Tulika Singh To Everyone:
 
Relating to Lisa's point of different perspectives within a text, I am thinking of Varāhamihira's largely scientific standpoint in the Bṛhatsaṃhitā and his discussion on the marks of men and women in two chapters of his book. How do we make sense of what appears as primarily social views of the body. Ken Zysk has made this point in his Indian System of Marks that it is unclear why Varāhamihira had added these chapters, but does this description give us an idea of social science of the body?
09:53:28 From Dominik Wujastyk To Everyone:
 
what is that 1980 "boundary work" article, Eric?
09:54:37 From Eric Moses Gurevitch To Everyone:
 
Replying to "what is that 1980 "b..."
 
Gieryn, Thomas F. “Boundary-Work and the Demarcation of Science from Non-Science: Strains and Interests in Professional Ideologies of Scientists.” American Sociological Review 48, no. 6 (1983): 781–95. https://doi.org/10.2307/2095325.
10:02:01 From Divya Kumar-Dumas To Everyone:
 
Would you please save the chat?
 

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